Comments on: What’s in a (gym class) name? https://healthyhkg.com/whats-in-a-gym-class-name/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=whats-in-a-gym-class-name All things health and wellness in Hong Kong Wed, 10 Oct 2018 16:41:27 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.5 By: Hermione https://healthyhkg.com/whats-in-a-gym-class-name/#comment-315 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 10:49:25 +0000 https://healthyhkg.com/?p=4558#comment-315 I find the class names just sound stupid and gimmicky. I get that the Founder and Owner is trying to create a brand, but the names are neither nuanced nor empowering. He should hire a decent marketing consultant for advice. Also, maybe consult a grammar book because those names are NOT adverbs.

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By: Maddy https://healthyhkg.com/whats-in-a-gym-class-name/#comment-314 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 06:26:11 +0000 https://healthyhkg.com/?p=4558#comment-314 I agree with the writer here that insinuation of violence towards women just for the sake of a pun isn’t necessary or funny.

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By: Dee https://healthyhkg.com/whats-in-a-gym-class-name/#comment-313 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 05:01:58 +0000 https://healthyhkg.com/?p=4558#comment-313 Hey Alex maybe take that massive chip off your shoulder for a moment and pay attention?

There is simply no need to name gym classes in a way that can be (easily) interpreted as promoting violence against women. There is no justification. When there is so much violence against women, a so called pro-active women’s gym should be aiming to promote women’s rights, not create some smart pun which does the opposite. What’s wrong with gender neutrality in your class names? Would us women not “get it” without the stupid names?

Simply no need for this.

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By: Vanessa https://healthyhkg.com/whats-in-a-gym-class-name/#comment-312 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 03:16:04 +0000 https://healthyhkg.com/?p=4558#comment-312 Alex I think you should be a bit more open to feedback, especially from women. In my opinion some of these class names do sound very violent… “Shredher” (?) Ouch. This makes me feel a bit sick. The combination implies inflicting violence to her…. I think you could come up with better class names!

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By: Eloise https://healthyhkg.com/whats-in-a-gym-class-name/#comment-311 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 01:48:17 +0000 https://healthyhkg.com/?p=4558#comment-311 I think the writer is absolutely correct. And the tone-deaf snowflake response from the gym owner above is astounding. This is just a badly disguised marketing plug about his so-called philanthropic nature.

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By: Alexander https://healthyhkg.com/whats-in-a-gym-class-name/#comment-310 Thu, 31 May 2018 11:33:55 +0000 https://healthyhkg.com/?p=4558#comment-310 Thanks for the response Erica.
With respect, and a genuine attempt to avoid being condecending: The class names are quite clearly adverbs (we are a gym, and we cater to females) using “sensationalist spelling”.
Your repeated attempts to attach “violence” to class names and my gender, is biased, derogatory, disrespectful, sexist, and utterly counterintuitive to the very vision and misson of Pherform.
After many years of relentless devotion to female empowerment, I won’t lose any sleep over your assumptions. I wish you health and happiness, but I won’t engage further on this.
All the best.

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By: Erica https://healthyhkg.com/whats-in-a-gym-class-name/#comment-309 Thu, 31 May 2018 08:30:42 +0000 https://healthyhkg.com/?p=4558#comment-309 In reply to Alexander de Fina.

Hi Alex, thanks for the message. I totally understand the attempt at branding by way of the word ‘her’ but there are definitely better ways to do so, in my opinion. If you need help with new class names, I’d be happy to suggest some!

I’m not sure how the poll could be considered offensive as it’s just a way to see what everyone else thinks. It could even be a good tool for you to see what other people—in and out of the Pherform community—feel, as it would be a huge oversight to assume otherwise.

I’m glad that you support female empowerment, a movement which by no means excludes males, but as a man, that means trying to see things from a woman’s point of view. The words ‘Shred-her’ or ‘Blast-her’ sound particularly violent—especially when coming from a man.

I also feel that someone who is truly in support of empowering women should be a little more open to critique about any potentially offensive or derogatory terms to women, and take the necessary steps to change this.

Lastly, thank you for the invitation to the Dream Team classes. I have nothing against the name, obviously—but thanks for trying to undermine my opinion by implying that I get offended over everything. As a business owner, I really think you should be more careful with what you say in the public space.

I’m glad that you have this great initiative for helpers (and I’m not sure how you want me to ‘volunteer’), but perhaps instead of Dream Team, you might want to call the class “Help-her”…

You’re welcome.

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By: Alexander de Fina https://healthyhkg.com/whats-in-a-gym-class-name/#comment-308 Thu, 31 May 2018 04:40:23 +0000 https://healthyhkg.com/?p=4558#comment-308 Hi Erica. As the Founder & Owner of Pherform – thank you for sharing your perspective. You didn’t “stir shit up” at all 🙂

Our class names are connected to the modality of training. As an editor, I am sure you understand the nuance and context of a branding exercise. To run a poll “Are Pherform class names offensive” is only offensive to the several hundred women who comprise our dynamic community and have never once considered our class names to be some kind of politicial/gender issue.

I am somewhat confused about your statement “Can it be any more obvious that Pherform was created by a guy?”. Are males excluded from a pursuit of female liberation and empowerment? Or am I guilty of an assumed gender bias by default of being a male?

As you seem quite passionate on both gender & fitness, I would love to welcome you to volunteer at Pherform Dream Team training – which is a free training service we provide several times per week for domestic helpers in Hong Kong. This service has been running for almost 4 years, and if you don’t find the “Dream Team” name as offensive as you do our classes, we can channel that passion and energy into sharing the gift of health & fitness with other women in Hong Kong who might not have the same resources as more fortunate folk like us.

Would love to discuss further with you – my personal email is: alex@pherform.com

Thank you

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By: Charmaine Ng | Architecture & Lifestyle Blog https://healthyhkg.com/whats-in-a-gym-class-name/#comment-307 Wed, 30 May 2018 17:41:23 +0000 https://healthyhkg.com/?p=4558#comment-307 I like the interesting thought you raise – never really thought of it myself. Very good point indeed!

Charmaine Ng | Architecture & Lifestyle Blog
http://charmainenyw.com

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